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S2E5 (Ben) - How to Make Your Dick Bigger
- Guest: Ben Clark
- Inventor of the Malehanger
- Inspired by Boogie Nights’ story of John Holmes’ early porn career.
- Ben’s first foray into penis enlargement testing was on his own penis
- Used hands at first using “manual exercises”
- Talks about weight hanging
- Hanging weights off of his penis
- Started at 5” length, 5” erect girth (circumference, not diameter 📏)
- Now at 7” length, 6.5” erect girth
- Has been doing this off and on for 20 years
- Been selling these since 2012 and has sold over 70k units!
- Has a how-to guide on how to use the product so there are no injuries.
- Ben has to be kind of involved sometimes - people have questions about correct usage frequently and he’s seen a lot of dicks.
- Recounts special stories from customers
- Tosin talks about how practicing piano to become more talented stemmed from feeling inadequate (or having the potential to be inadequate physically)
- Stephanie found out her mom’s boobs were fake later in life
- Kacey loves her boobs now even though she used to worry about it
- Insecurities be like: feeling like you’re “Back of the Black man line” for being 7” and tp roll thick
- Kacey’s favorite orgasm was from a dude with a huge dick, but the orgasm happened with a vibrator and his fingers
- Ben can hang 40lbs off his dick! That’s like… a medium sized dog! Or a super fat cat!
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Speaker 2:Hello all you sexy beasts and welcome back to Talk Dirty To Me, the podcast where you know a handful of friends with a handful of different perspectives Talk Dirty To One another about cat fetish and sex. And today we have with you Tosen Aufe. So the boy myself, casey, your neighborhood femdom, and we have a fantastic guest for you today. We have for you Ben Clark. Ben Clark, say hello.
Speaker 3:Hello everybody.
Speaker 2:So Ben Clark and correct me if I say anything that is incorrect is the creator of the manhanger. Is that correct?
Speaker 3:It's a male hanger, but that's okay, I'm sorry, the male hanger.
Speaker 2:So this is a device of your own creation.
Speaker 3:Yes indeed.
Speaker 2:So you thought of it, you designed it, you created it and now you're selling it.
Speaker 3:Yep, I started selling male hanger back in 2012.
Speaker 2:Okay, and for our audience, can you tell us what the male hanger does?
Speaker 3:So basically in a nutshell, male hanger is a penis traction, penis enlargement device that works through a pretty simple concept called tissue traction, which is basically, in a semi-therapeutic sense of the term, the concept of stretching tissue, like skin, repeatedly over time until you achieve tissue elongation or permanent stretch. So very similar to stretching out or gauging, as they say in the body piercing community, the earlobes. Once you reach a certain point of, they'll say no return, the tissue will stay permanently elongated or stretch that way and the only way to correct it is through cosmetic surgery. So you can use that same principle on the penis and that's what male hanger does stretching it repeatedly, a few days a week over time, and you eventually achieve a longer and thicker penis.
Speaker 1:So I have 1000 questions. I do too. The first one is, honestly, longer makes sense to me, right, I get that. I get how that could work. Right, how are you pulling off thicker?
Speaker 3:That's a good question. It's basically it's not really clearly defined how that happens. It's speculated that with the penis the thickening happens as a result of basically part of the elongation, and reinforcing is not really the term I'm looking for, but it's very similar in concept. Along with the elongation you also get a growth laterally of the tissues. I guess.
Speaker 1:I guess if we're dealing with a cylinder and you stretch the cylinder out, it's got to compensate Right, so that it's not a skinnier cylinder, and then it's able to pull that off. In general it's probably it's a very thin. The margin of it being bigger than it began with is pretty easy to pull off.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, go ahead. And what are your credentials like? Do you work in the medical field at all? Like, how did you get to know this science? Like where? How do I ask this question? Where were you in life when you were like, huh, I wonder if I stretch my penis like an earlobe, if it will stay? And then you did research and found it to be true.
Speaker 3:So great question. I do not have a formal medical education. I'm not a physical therapist. In fact, I've say this in some of my online content on my YouTube channel as a sort of disclaimer. I'm basically self taught back around 1999. I was serving my last year in a few months in the Marines out in 29 Palms, california. This is back in the day when we could still go out to newbie rental stores video rental stores like blockbuster and I did so offline or off base.
Speaker 3:One weekend cruising their selections, I came across a movie called Boogie Nights and it's basically a really loosely retold version or spin on the story of John Holmes porn career in the early 80s and it started Mark Wahlberg and Bert Reynolds and basically after watching that movie it kind of touched on a little bit of his porn career, his cocaine addiction, his fall from basically being at the height of as high as you could be as a male porn star back then. His cocaine addiction took him into a life of crime eventually, which kind of destroyed his porn career and he got tied up with a group called that became known as the Wonderland Gang and the Wonderland Gang murders became a whole thing because he got wrapped up in basically a murder situation with this gang. He was later acquitted for it and, in a nutshell, I basically became intrigued about this whole story. So I got on what was the early internet back then on? I believe it was Lyco search and I started looking up like John Holmes murder trial, because I've always been interested in like true crime kind of stuff, what makes people tick and do the things that they do, how they get wrapped in stuff, wrapped up in stuff, that kind of stuff, and so some of these early search results even though I was not looking for like ways to make my penis bigger I'd never really thought of my penis other than an extension of my body that I urinated and had fun with I still ended up being turned on to some search results that lean toward penis enlargement because early marketers, even back then online, were starting to use things like John Holmes penis enlargement and connect those two together.
Speaker 3:So that's how I ended up on my first penis enlargement forum and it was basically a small collection of men who were claiming to use exercises like stretching with their hands, squeezing methods with their hands and even using something called weight hanging, which, again, I'd never heard of any of this kind of stuff. So I was like, what in the world are these guys doing? So I started out of curiosity and I basically hung out as a lurker, as you'd say, for a few months on this forum that I found and then I started posting and asking questions because I'm like, okay, these guys can't all be crazy. There's got to be something to it. They're claiming this stuff works. So I tried some of the basic exercises they laid out examples of on this forum first, and after my first, I'd say, three months, I'd gained my first half inch and length and girth. That seemed to be permanent.
Speaker 2:I was, and I was hooked and it took off from there for me. Okay, hold on, I want to keep going. I have 10,000 questions still. So does Tosan, but I want to say Wait, have a Stephanie, stephanie. Sorry, I'm so late, you're totally fine, hello. So just a quick recap for you. Ben is the creator of the male hanger, which is a penis enlargement device, and he was just telling us a little bit of the history.
Speaker 4:Congratulations, I'm so excited to hear everything so you started with like actual weights.
Speaker 3:I started by using my hands, at first, using some of these what they call manual exercises.
Speaker 2:Wait, so you would pull on your own penis, correct, was it uncomfortable?
Speaker 3:Not much pressure.
Speaker 2:Would you apply and how long would you have to hold it to have results?
Speaker 3:Basically, the basic methodology, so to speak, with your hands is to pull until you feel a light stretch kind of a sensation, and hold it for about 30 seconds to a minute at a time, ease off it, repeat and then for up to 15 to 20 minute sessions.
Speaker 2:And so you had results with this simple action.
Speaker 3:Yeah, within my first two, three months. And then I learned about weight hanging and kind of got into that a little bit very slowly.
Speaker 2:And that was actually hanging weights off of your penis. Correct, okay, real talk. Do you have the world's largest cock now?
Speaker 3:No, I do not, but I've gone from an erect length of I started out with six inches and now actually yeah, I'm confusing myself here a second Sorry, it's a happy dad talking I started out with an erect length of five inches and I was five inches around, measured at the tape measure, what they call girth. I'm currently a bit over seven inches long and six and a half inches in the right.
Speaker 2:Holy shit, if you stopped doing exercises, would it go back?
Speaker 3:No, as I was kind of alluding to earlier, Casey, once you reach a point of no return with tissue stretching, kind of like gauging out your lobes, the tissue stays that way.
Speaker 2:And is it so and everything functions as it would otherwise, like you didn't get. You don't get like less hard.
Speaker 3:Oh no, I'm in my early 40s now. I started when I was in my early 20s and everything works like it did back in my 20s.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, so you've been doing this for 20 years, often on yes, I do.
Speaker 3:Now I restarted about two years ago because I basically got to a point where I could do my business full time about two years ago and so, as a guy who believes in testing what I sell, using what I doing, what I teach, I felt like it made sense to get back into it. It really helps me, as a teacher coaching guys who I sell my product to to be more knowledgeable in what I'm doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it's also. It's also good to be like look, here's my dick two years ago, here's my dick now with this device. Correct.
Speaker 2:You too can have a longer dick. Can you, for our audience, describe what it looks like? Oh, he's holding it up right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this is my product, male hanger, and it's basically what you might say is a clam shell kind of device. It goes around. You adjust it with this wing nut here.
Speaker 2:It goes around the shaft of the penis, correct and tightened and loosened with a wing nut, and so is the is the clamp itself. It's like a donut people, so that there's like space for your shaft. Is the device itself weighted, or do you add weights to that?
Speaker 3:No, there's a hook on the end here via a strap and if you go to my site at male hangercom you can get a visual. I don't know if this video will have you know, actual video or podcast.
Speaker 2:We'll put it in the car. We'll leave it in the show notes. Everybody check out the link in the show notes.
Speaker 3:And then you connect a weight by the hook there.
Speaker 2:Okay, and that's like a sand bag. I'm sorry, not a full size sand bag, but a tiny sand bag.
Speaker 3:Now this is just a weight strap and then an actual weight player.
Speaker 2:Oh, we had at the bottom. I'm sorry, your video is propped such that we can't. I don't think we can see the whole screen.
Speaker 3:That's okay, I can move it around.
Speaker 2:Here we go, I see, I see.
Speaker 1:Now do you need to be like? Still, while this is happening, can you like go about your day with weights hanging from your dick?
Speaker 3:No, you should have a place that you dedicate to using the product. It's not something you can wear under clothing, but it doesn't take much time. Per day Total of 45 minutes to an hour, which most guys, if they truly are interested in this kind of like, getting in better shape. Elsewise, you'll make time for it.
Speaker 2:Do people kids? Can you do it sitting at a desk, like while you're working?
Speaker 3:Yeah, you can do it sitting, but you can do it sitting. You can do it sitting, you can do it sitting.
Speaker 2:You can do it sitting and have you had people come to you with very, very tiny penises?
Speaker 3:I've. You know I've sold this since 2012, casey. So if I had to guess out of the 70,000 units or so that I've sold in that time, sure there's sizes from across the spectrum. So I mean, I do say that you should have a minimum size of between four and five inches erect to use male hanger effectively. If you're starting out smaller than that, then I usually tell a guy okay, you should start off with maybe some manual stretching with your hands, gain a little bit of size first, and then you can use my product.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty open and honest about that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:So yeah, yeah, Do you think it would be better?
Speaker 1:So I, imagine there's like a like a cap on it. Like even with tissue stretching, even with like a low stretching with ears I've heard that like at some point in time you can't keep stretching it. Like people can get pretty big but it depends on like how your cartilage is set up is. Do you know what that cap is for for peens?
Speaker 3:I don't know for sure if there is a cap. I've gained a bit, basically two and a half inches ish myself and length and about an inch and a half and girth, and I've had customers claim up to three inches. I honestly feel like after a while you basically I mean this does take effort and consistency, kind of like joining a gym and consistently getting there and working out on enough of a basis to get the results you want. So an inch takes enough effort. I feel like most guys kind of fall off after that and it's kind of the minority who keep going. Plus there's a practicality sake. I mean if you're sexually active your partner can usually take only so much anyway. So it's kind of a point of diminishing returns after, say, two inches, especially if you're starting out with five and go to seven or six or seven and go to eight or nine.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I don't think that is a necessary size audience. It's too much penis.
Speaker 3:I mean when it comes to. I've heard I'm heterosexual myself, but I know some gay men. They can take it all more the better. Some women, most of the women I've been with in my life, including my wife, they don't like the feel of, you know, the cervix being slammed against you too much, but yeah, it's a girth problem for butt stuff.
Speaker 1:I mean, I've taken. I've taken decently long penises.
Speaker 4:I think that's just like the overall thing of any kink is there's a spectrum for everything. So there's going to be like there are women's anuses or anuses that are so much further than their clitoris is than another female where, like theirs is right there, they're right next to each other. So the like they're really lucky they have a chance of having like a prostate and vaginal orgasm a lot easier than another woman, and so all bodies are different. I think that's a really important thing to say here is that girth is it might be the thing for you, it is not the thing for everybody. So you know, because there are some, just like you said, your wife, I like him right there with her, like I don't want to feel like something is piercing my insides that feels Intrusive to me, and that's probably purity, culture and my religion, because it always is. But I feel like not everybody needs, you know, a giant penis. Those are.
Speaker 1:People all along the spectrum like I. You know, I have a partner that was as a self-proclaimed size queen, you know, and like we're talking 10s to 12s and Like that's the jam, like you know. I know plenty people with like nine inch minimum.
Speaker 4:I'm not laughing, I'm like in awe, I'm in awe of that I have. I have a friend who, truly, that's what she says to me Like her thing is cute, like she loves it huge, that is like she needs it all up in there. I just mean that not every human body is the same, so, like you know, always have to change yourself. There's somebody out there that's gonna love your little penis.
Speaker 3:Yep, some people want you to, want you to beat it up and some people don't.
Speaker 4:There you go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, are there any negative side effects?
Speaker 3:Not that I've seen. I mean, you can misuse the product and cause yourself to have a bruise, but that's usually about the worst. But I've got a how-to guide that every one of my customers gets access to. I literally put it on a QR code sticker On the product which takes you to the how-to guide, and so that's got step-by-step instructions, step-by-step pictures, videos how to correctly use the product. So you really have to go out of your way to misuse it.
Speaker 1:Okay, how many people's people have you seen? Probably more than I can count.
Speaker 3:Honestly, I talk it up to being kind of like across between a personal trainer and a urologist, but I don't have to see my patients in person.
Speaker 2:Wait, so you is part of the process of having this looking at people using it, yeah, I have to help.
Speaker 3:A lot of guys make sure that they're they're putting it on correctly or they're adjusting something correctly, or I get a lot of questions about like is it? Does this look right? Am I wearing it correctly? Is it upside? You know I've seen people put on upside down, sideways, sometimes both backwards, like no, that you obviously have not looked at my guide.
Speaker 2:Take a step back.
Speaker 3:The QR code is right.
Speaker 2:So people. So people have direct access to you.
Speaker 3:Yes, I make myself very Easy to get a hold of. I've got an email on my website. I've got a phone number on my website, both of which I answer myself. I've got a mail hangar forum. I've got a reddit group and a discord. I want to be there on purpose. I enjoy what I do and I I want people to be able to use my product correctly.
Speaker 1:What's, what's the most special story to you that you've heard from use of your product?
Speaker 3:Let's see. I've heard everything from hey Ben. I've been able to. I've had guys who take, say, high amounts of Viagra up to a hundred milligrams a day who have been able to reduce the amount they take because of improved blood flow from using my product. I've heard of hey. You know I gained a couple inches Anecdotally you know it's their words from using mail hanger and I was finally able to have the courage to ask that special someone out. Or I finally had the courage to ask for that promotion at work. I mean, again, I've been doing this since 2012. I've sold this product around the world to people from all walks of life that you can think of all sexual interests and Patients. I've even had a couple of trans women who wanted to add some size before they got what they call bottom surgery done To have more tissue to work with. So I mean, really I've worked with just about anybody, and everybody Actually was about.
Speaker 4:When you say that some men went from using 100 milligrams of Viagra a day. I don't know how Viagra works, so is that just a pill that you take every single day so that when you do want to have sex it's working, or do you take that when you want to have sex?
Speaker 3:It can be both stuffy, basically Viagra and See Alice. They're very similar and they are both what they call best siloed dilators.
Speaker 1:I believe is the correct term.
Speaker 3:So basically, yeah, yeah relaxes blood vessels in the penis, helps blood flow more easily, and so it makes getting an erection through men's and physical stimulation easier.
Speaker 4:So you can take it and not necessarily have an erection. You're just saying like, hey, I'm taking this as a precaution today, because later this evening I might meet a lovely lady and I'll be ready to get it up.
Speaker 3:Yes, you can do that.
Speaker 4:Okay, I'm just trying to understand the hundred milligrams a day.
Speaker 1:Because you're the business in your penis get filled with blood pumping through it.
Speaker 4:No, no, certainly I understand what the drug does. I'm just saying they needed to. They need to get hard every day Like they. That was what they were going for, or is it something that you like stack up in the body so that it works when you're ready to Use it? I'm just genuinely asking cuz?
Speaker 1:I don't Like how big that's. Yeah, vein can relaxes, so a hundred milligrams will let a lot more blood in than 20 milligrams. So the more struggle that you have, the more relaxation.
Speaker 4:Okay, so you don't take a viagra and get hard.
Speaker 2:You do. I thought that you took it.
Speaker 1:Cialis is the extended release one which is like we'll, we're gonna react to your body, like if you become aroused and that normal process begins. Then Cialis is set up to help you out there. Viagra kind of like is a more like I'm gonna have sex in an hour or 30 minutes and that's so. It's a little right. It's the cocaine erection Viagra has an agent that actually increases your blood pressure a little bit so that you're like actual blood Flow is more and Cialis is more just about the massive violation.
Speaker 3:I see, okay, right so sorry, I just didn't like chosen's alluding to Viagra is more of an immediate within an hour and gives you a four-hour window drug. And then Cialis is something you can take and it usually lasts up to. It's basically called the weekend pill. You can get up to two days worth of a window, so to speak, where you can get erections more easily or on demand.
Speaker 4:Who was taking a hundred milligrams of Viagra a day is like so grateful to you if he had to cut back that. That Milligram of any medication a day, yeah, is amazing because, again, you were saying that Cialis is the other one, that is a time release or whatever, but this person is taking Viagra to get hard when they wanted to get hard every day. So they found a new alternative.
Speaker 3:That's not medical and that's right and that is a high dose. Usually if you're taking that much Viagra, you're not responding to lower doses for whatever the reason, whether it's some sort of a medical complication, something health-wise, some sort of a physical injury you've had and lower doses just aren't working for you.
Speaker 2:How do you feel about the stereotype of men needing to have large penises?
Speaker 3:It's kind of like I don't know if it's a haven't really encountered a stereotype of Men across the board needing to have large penises, but there does seem to be a stereotype with certain ethnicities having certain sizes or being expected to be larger, like African-American dissented men it tends to be, for whatever the reason that oh he's, he looks like he's got a big dick. Because he's tall, or he's of African-American descent, he must have a big dick, or he's Asian, he must have a small one. I don't know where these stereotypes tend to come from, but it more tends to lean toward, from what I've heard and seen anyway toward body sizes, height or Ethnicity.
Speaker 2:For whatever the reason maybe stereotype was a wrong word the belief, the belief that men have to have large penises, cuz like one of the examples you gave, a story with somebody saying, oh, I have a bigger penis. Now I can finally ask for that promotion, which it's.
Speaker 4:Yeah, same, and not because I'm like judging, because like I am in a female body and I Think the world always makes us think we're in such different categories female and men and like the fact that like that Ways on anyone's heart is quite relatable to women. We just don't ever tend to talk about that, like that's just so fascinating that you would feel less than.
Speaker 3:I think it relates to body image and perception and that ties into self-confidence, for a lot of people says a woman may be more confident after she has, say, breast enhancement done. It could relate very similarly for a man who's, for different reasons, somewhat psychologically Self-confidence reasons, for whatever the for whatever the reason he doesn't feel good about how his penis looks in relation to the rest of his body and now he adds an inch or two to it. I think it's a very similar kind of thing. I remember.
Speaker 1:I remember when I was growing up you know, being a black dude and watching porn and Deciding that that was like the size I was supposed to be. Plus, you know, if this is obviously very quickly in your black adult male life, you hear the stereotype and then me considering me, thinking that I didn't have a big enough penis, like. What ends up happening in your brain. Is any step I take towards success or more Notoriety or anything could lead to a situation where, like, someone will see my penis and if it's inadequate, then who am I? And so you'll, like, you'll, sabotage yourself, you'll do all kinds of wild things like eventually.
Speaker 2:I mean, that is just like your penis has to be like an Appropriate ratio to your success in life.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that is so fast, so it's just out in it. In it I am too. I am having a mental breakdown, on top of the fact that a lot of why is this not talked about?
Speaker 1:Because of the way that they're emotionally trained, usually the main outlet with which they are able to have any other emotion like at all is usually what the having sex are intimately.
Speaker 1:So if the only place where you get to feel soft or care or have any emotion other than make money or be strong is having sex and then you end you don't have a big penis, which everybody says you have to have so that people will engage with you in any other connective way, it just shatters you and so it's like you can't do. You feel stuck in this. Like you know, I've said it on a podcast a lot that, like boys are raised to only have two emotions and that's angry and horny, right, all bad things are angry, all good things are horny. And so if that's all you got and then you don't have, and the one tool that you have to have, have to have to participate in feeling any good feeling in societies exceptively, is inadequate and it kind of tanks your whole self-worth and you can't talk about it, right, you can't be like I'm sad because I have a small penis.
Speaker 4:Because, right, oh, my God, I feel like Rudolph the Red-Nosed Render is about a deer with a small penis and it's just been coaxed gently and nicely for all ages to listen to, because it sounds like this is more for your validation with men than women, because nobody's asking women what they want, because women not all women want a big dick, like to me, there is something so interesting and, again, not judgmental, just like you said. I mean, I've had plastic surgery not for my boobs but for my nose. Like I, if there's something you want to do to make yourself feel better, for sure. But at the end of the day, I think I'm just fascinated by where it comes from, like where that desire is, because, again, I've read articles on women with like endometriosis and like severe scar tissueing inside. All sex is painful for them, so like a small penis actually is like the bomb for them.
Speaker 4:So somebody out there who might feel like their small penis is unworthy it hasn't meant the hot demerit of the moral of this story. Because, again, if you want to, I totally under, like it's making me understand why that would be in need, but also like don't feel shame.
Speaker 1:And you're more than your penis anyway.
Speaker 1:And also there's lots of sex that you can have that don't involve your penis at all. That is just as fun and glorious and in good time. And if you take the time to like, step away, like, if you come to the realization that you don't have to wrap all of your emotional connection in penetration, that everything that you actually are looking for from why you become so interested in sex and like, why you do it because of the way you've been emotionally socialized. That's why, like, asmr streamers do so well. That's why, like, there's an entire porn sections that are just women staring into the camera being like you're great and I want you and it's like. That's because that's what you're looking for, more than just like warm locations.
Speaker 3:I think a lot of it as well. You could say, so to speak. To blame for this, these kind of things, is that you know there does tend to be in music and in Hollywood oftentimes and in porn there is a what some would call a pandemic of porn addiction for young men these days. The more porn you watch, the more warped your perception of things like penis size and what you need to have or what people expect you to have can be that I already say warped, but basically you know you've got these things to factor in on this whole thing, this whole situation. Why these days, especially back when I started the stuff in 1999, I mean, like I was saying before you came on the line, steffi, to Casey and Tosen here I'd never given my penis a second thought before I stumbled into the online world of penis enlargement out of curiosity. It was just something is a part of my body I literally urinated with and had fun with, and that was it. I never considered the size of it. Was it good enough? Was it big enough? Did it look normal? Did it function like it was supposed to? I never had any of these thoughts about my penis before I found penis enlargement and then all of a sudden I kind of go down this rabbit hole.
Speaker 3:Over the years and now I can definitely relate to guys these days who fast forward 20 years and it seems like I forget what the percentages are, but it's pretty high. You've got more and more young men who have a porn problem. They don't socialize like they used to, we're obsessed with screens and not really even on dates. I mean, you look around in a restaurant. My wife and I will go out to dinner. We put our phones away, but anybody under 30 is usually if, even if they're on a date with a person they're supposed to be talking to, they might be sending things back and forth to themselves on their phones, sitting right across from each other, but they're not engaging directly. So it's like you've got all these things these days that are contributing most likely to penis size related insecurities, and so while it's I hate to sound selfish in a good way for me, it's great for business, but at the same time it's, you know, it's kind of a problem because so many have insecurity issues about their penises.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but I think the way that you are kind of bringing it to light is that it has longevity potential to. So maybe just self confidence in one Like I'm. Again, I'm not shaming anyone who wants to have their penis enlarged. I'm saying as a female, not of that world of men who talk about that. I didn't know that this is like a that men feel insecure about that. That's so fast, it's fascinating. I mean, of course men can get insecure about things. I don't not know that. It's just that's. It was just a fascinating thing to learn as a female.
Speaker 3:Well, that's why guys drive big trucks. You know they have a small penis. It's another stereotype, right?
Speaker 4:Is that true?
Speaker 1:I mean.
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 1:The. The joke is that you're compensating for it, right, so you're trying your best, right to. I was like I mean, a good reason of that I am the piano player than I am now is because I I'm trying. I was trying to build stock against the inevitable disappointment that someone was going to have, so that, like, by the time they got to the point where I was naked in front of them, they were like, well, he's really talented, he's really funny and there's all these other things. So if he's the few inches short of what I need, that's fine, I'll deal with it. Especially in my, like, high school years, there was a lot of my motivation for becoming more and more talented. I mean, I also loved it too.
Speaker 4:I think I can relate to that, ok, and maybe maybe not. Like call me out, but I had no boobs. Like we're talking concave, like my boobs went the other way, like there was not a sports bra, there was not anything that I ever needed. And you get to a certain age where I'm super confident with my small, small breasts. Now I genuinely would not want to a boob job, but I really was. Like I had heard one time that a girl's boobs came in when she was 18 and another one she was 19. So every year I was like this is my year.
Speaker 2:My boobs are going to come.
Speaker 4:Like I'm going to be a woman. My mom had boobs. My mom was this tall, beautiful, stunning woman with boobs and I was like my boobs never came and I mean, I think it even gave me like a like a not intelligent complex of like. I never felt like womanly without my boobs for a long, long time. And then I found out in my like 20s that my mom had a boob job. You know, you find out later that, like, my mom didn't have boobs either.
Speaker 2:Your mom's boobs are fake and she never told you Not tall as like 20.
Speaker 4:And I was like no, because this is, this is Christian Southern, the South where we're like we don't talk about it at the time she was also like gung-ho when I wanted a nose job because she was like you do you do what you need to do? But again, these, these all come from places of like what we think we're supposed to look like and have, and just it's just fascinating and I think it also there's a huge divide right now between like men and women. Sometimes it feels like and early, we all kind of have similar Shitty things to deal with. I mean definitely.
Speaker 2:I wish there was a woman version of the male hanger, because I remember when I was younger and also had complex Not complex, but like was worried about the size of my breasts. Now I also have small breasts and I think they're fan fucking tastic. So, I remember we like I saw commercials for like blue song, which was this cream leave you, bro, on your breasts and it makes them bigger.
Speaker 3:Yes, and at the time I remember that.
Speaker 2:I mean, obviously, that I should get that, and maybe my mom joked about getting it for me, and now I'm like there's no cream, this is gonna make your boobs bigger.
Speaker 4:My friend found these pills in my glove compartment and, instead of telling her that it was to grow my breasts from this impo martial, I was too embarrassed so I said they were diet pills. And I came home that night to a Intervention from my family because my friend had called to tell them addicted to diet pills and Because I didn't tell my parents or anybody that I thought these things like so now you had to tell everybody they're like you're not diet pills.
Speaker 4:They're for my boobs, mom. It's dumber than diet pills. Diet pills have stuff in them that actually work. This is probably just dirt from the ground. So I'm taking from my boobs to grow, because they did not grow of it. Did you tell everybody? Of course we had more might. Yes, because my parents were like we are really. That was a fast intervention. Why? Okay, well, this is the baptist christian world.
Speaker 4:Okay, she thought, saw this as satan and she was gonna say me they move, they move quick with their exorcism, exorcism, but just the fact that I am a teenager probably 15 at home watching tv going my boobs aren't big enough, but this pill says it'll grow it this many sizes that pill and that cream. They probably made so much money. Oh yeah, and I get it. Yeah, that's what we thought we were supposed to have.
Speaker 1:I I definitely got got by. What is that porn star's name? Who's like a bigger, I think a time, and Ron.
Speaker 3:Jeremy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ron Jeremy, I definitely got by his penis enlargement like infomercials that were going on the middle of the night.
Speaker 4:He had some. What did he say?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Just like an infomercial came on at 1 am, you know, after I was done watching hbo. Real sex was like Ron Jeremy's.
Speaker 4:Taxi cab confession.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they all of those skin and max red shoe diaries on the lifetime channel, by the way, which was just playing, you know, christian movies right before they got to keep the bills as as they set it up so diabolically to happen, so funny.
Speaker 1:But no, yeah, I was like you know, when I got him on, one of my first jobs Is to get like one of those things because, like it, like I said, I tried, I tried so many things. I was like I did, I did penis stretching, where I was probably doing wrong and I wasn't doing it consistently. I was just kind of like sad and then I was like this is gonna fix it. You know, that's it pills.
Speaker 1:He doesn't cry, come on and so you know you it's, it's a silly time and you know like another thing is like. It's just that it. It would be so much better if people talk about things like I did not know that there was a show where grower thing for a long time like so. I'm definitely like a turtle. So if I'm, if I'm not erect, I'm pretty much like I have very. I have fairly large testicles. So if I'm not erect, like my whole penis is pretty much like wrapped up in my balls.
Speaker 4:But you know, I I'm fine like I'm, I'm, I'm like in the it was with a show or not a grower one time, and I'm telling you, when his pants were down and he was not erect it was. It was a Mushroom, but like the size of a mushroom little. When he was erect it was we're talking eight girthy, horrifying inches. And bless him and who he went on to be with because I'm sure her cervix can handle that. But that was like Science fiction to me. When I watched it transform and that was the first time I mean, like they don't just tell people out there that it's like that my 31 year old friend recently reached out and said I need to tell you something.
Speaker 4:I'm watching this show on HBO. Did you know that men who are uncircumstised when their penis gets hard you can't even tell they're uncircumstised? And I was like, yes, but it? But it is crazy to me but also not crazy to me that 30 year old women don't understand that penis is all work, the thing like circumcised or not, like when they're hard it's a penis but, we have ideas of like oh, it's uncircumstised.
Speaker 4:That's crazy. You know, in sex in the city they're like he has a sharpache, he carries a little house around for his penis and it's so aggressive towards men who are Uncircumstised.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's so wild, like the things that like People don't talk about that, like everybody experiences, and because you don't talk about it, you don't know that it's like a common thing that occurs that's right had like I'm Slightly over seven inches and about toilet paper roll like toilet paper hold a roll thick which is above average and I swear for like up until I was like 22. I was like oh, you know, I'm at the back of the black man line and Fine, the actual I.
Speaker 4:My brain is like shutting down.
Speaker 2:Why did you think you were on the small end?
Speaker 1:I'm a big guy. So like my, because I'm a bigger guy, I don't see my penis past my stomach. So my perception of like how long my penis is is like non-existent, because if I look down I don't really see it.
Speaker 4:I also, I also have never gotten a mirror and examine yourself down there.
Speaker 1:Oh, I mean like I found out, because I got like that's what women.
Speaker 4:That's what women ask each other. You've never looked at your vagina with a mirror.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, like I've seen it in videos and stuff now, like now I'm like I've can interact with it more from a third party perspective. And you know, like when I was measuring it, like I was measuring it flaccid and that's where I was like getting my inch judgment from and being somebody who like completely shrinks, it's like one point you were hurting your own feeling exactly and so and then it was, like you know, I fortunately got with a partner who you know they were like I had.
Speaker 1:I had imagined that like partners I had been with up until that point were just being nice on, like like being sore and things like that, and I was like whatever. And then like somebody literally was just like hold on and like got out of like cloth measuring tape and I was like you were this thick around and this long, which is here's the here's the national average of penis size. You are above average. Relax. I was like you're a toilet paper roll size. Nobody's that size.
Speaker 4:Yeah, nobody's out there going. What does the average clitoris enjoy?
Speaker 1:right and they should.
Speaker 2:I don't even thinking about the clitoris.
Speaker 3:Westernized culture taboos.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, but we're getting better right huge penis for what?
Speaker 2:For what? For what Like? How is your huge penis going to satisfy me more when your small penis already doesn't satisfy me, where you think the satisfaction comes in the size of your penis, like if it's bigger. I'll just all of a sudden have waves of ecstasy when you get closer to me, like I'll be sucked into the Gravitational pull of your penis and just be overwhelmingly I'm gonna start coming.
Speaker 4:This is why Casey is a goddess Does there are lines that will be.
Speaker 2:Does it matter what side to your penis is? This will?
Speaker 4:be kink canon one day. I believe it. That line will be kink canon. I will be not thought of, I will be an afterthought, but Casey will have thoughts that will haunt you in your dreams so that you change for the better.
Speaker 2:Yeah, For everybody that thinks they need a large penis to satisfy women. You can have a big penis and women can be wildly unsatisfied.
Speaker 1:Listen. One benefit to my misunderstanding of my own penis size was I became a deep student of clitoral stimulation because I was like well, the only way I'm ever going to be able to stay in the game is I will have to be the best at cunnilingus. So I don't know, I haven't done the necessary legwork to find out how I'm the best, but no complaints thus far. The you don't take surveys. I do take surveys, but that's anecdotal and autistic.
Speaker 1:But because I will literally, especially with new partners, I will be like a few days after, because I feel like like I personally have the inclination to like, come up, wipe my face off and be like can you give me a report card rating on anything that I've done and how you would like me to change and any adjustments you would like me to make? I noticed that minute mark 448, that you are pushing my head down to the side and I don't know if that meant you wanted in more pressure or that you wanted me to move lower down laterally on your clitoris. So if you can clarify that for me so I can add it to the spreadsheet so that I can perform better for you next time, that's not hot. I don't do that right after. Thank you, science.
Speaker 4:I weighed a couple of things.
Speaker 1:He weighs a day, and then I was like, hey, is there any you know calibrations or adjustments you'd like me to make? And there were a couple of signals that I didn't understand and wanted to ask you. Let me know and then continually do it, but yeah, so you must have pretty good Yelp reviews. I do have references. I do have a few people that I can send people to and be like. Can you give a user rating review?
Speaker 2:I will say, before we say in subjects, change subjects really quick that one of my top favorite oriasms that I think about when I think about favorite orgasms was given to me by a gentleman who had a very large penis One of my favorite large penises, in fact but I was given that orgasm using a vibrator and his fingers.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 4:So that's a t-shirt that's like knowledge, that is again canon, like that's poetry, sheer poetry, sheer poetry. Because it's not, it's nobody's getting cut down here. It's literally saying no, it is not about your penis all the time. Sometimes it is very much about your penis, but you should love your penis as long as it works the way you want it to work. If it doesn't, work, then fuck that penis.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, no, I immediately regret it, that phrasing.
Speaker 4:Just mean Then, like I understand, like, oh, I would like my penis to get hard. Sure, whatever you need to do for that.
Speaker 1:Well, ben, I'm glad you sell the age old problem yeah it's.
Speaker 2:actually there aren't many. When it comes to stuff like this, like wanting longer hair or bigger boobs or a bigger penis or to get rid of age spots or whatever, there actually aren't a lot of solutions at work, so I'm delighted that there's a product out there that actually works.
Speaker 4:And that you don't have to ingest in your body.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you added length to your own penis and it can say no, this is functional, it works. Yeah, if you do want a larger penis, this is a fabulous solution. And do people like, do people brag about how much weight they hang off it? You know, like guys at the gym they're like yeah, I squat 250 or however much a lot is or guys use the male hang and they're like, yeah, I hang, I hang five pounds you know whatever Not typically.
Speaker 4:You guys sound much more of all.
Speaker 3:I've been wanting to say. I'm also one of the few out there selling a product like mine. That is actually not only my own. You know, one of my own best customers actually document the results. I continue to get on in measured videos as I progress. So I feel like that's very important.
Speaker 2:How much weight yeah, how much weight do men hang off the male hanger Like? What's the maximum amount?
Speaker 3:There's not a set maximum amount you're chasing. I always suggest you start with one to two pounds at most in the very beginning and very slowly progress, and I teach in my guide that everybody gets access to how to make that progress in a smart way, safely. Based on my experiences with myself and coaching others over the years, I can personally hang up to 40 pounds, but holy shit. Damn, I didn't get there overnight 40 pounds.
Speaker 2:I don't even bicep curl 40 pounds on one side.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's an Olympian and your penis.
Speaker 2:So what you're saying is your penis can be me in an arm wrestle competition.
Speaker 4:Possibly. It's an Olympic Olympic penis.
Speaker 1:And coming to the stage three time gold medalist Ben Clark in the penis curls. We've seen quite a performance from this year and we're looking to see something greater. I can't believe it. He's picking up the 50 pound kettlebell. Can he do it? Now? Where's Doug? Come on in? This is silly.
Speaker 2:That's hilarious, the equivalent thing. There's an equivalent thing for women and it's about pelvic floor and your muscles and it's like. It's like putting a yoni egg inside with I forget what I used, but you can like put a piece of string through the yoni egg and like hang weights off it and then do kegels, basically so your weight lifting with your pelvis floor.
Speaker 3:I've seen that.
Speaker 2:You know, it makes you tighter and stronger and helps you with incontinence and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:I've seen that yeah.
Speaker 2:You can also get stuck inside you.
Speaker 4:I'm going to try it with 40 pounds now, though no.
Speaker 1:Casey Do it. Casey, do it. No, casey tries it, I'm going to do it. Casey tries it.
Speaker 2:That would be the appropriate Casey tries it for this episode Toast and you'll have to do the toast and try it. I mean sure We'll have to get you a nail hanger. I'll give it a shot.
Speaker 1:Like I'll put it on, I'm not particularly, I don't necessarily well, there are positional advantages to a larger penis, like there are sex positions that I need about three and a half more inches for to pull off, and I guess that experience would be nice. But you know I'll put it on Like I want to. I do want to see, like, how it works and how that goes.
Speaker 4:So you're saying that you would like to get to 10 inches?
Speaker 1:I think the thing I'm actually looking for is like a comfortable penis extender, because I had looked into that for a long time. For a little bit, when I was having like after the vasectomy, I was having some like maintaining erection issues for a little bit, and so I was like looking for penis extenders. That was like, oh okay, well, this fixes the positional problem, but I don't want to like permanently have Like. I only want to have 10 inch penises so that I can do certain like on the side positions, because I got to clear my belly to do some of those and I was like that's the only reason I would want it. So it would be temporary, because I don't know that.
Speaker 1:I don't know that I have anybody around that's like wants to take 10 inches of dick. I guess there's probably some dudes I can find, but yeah, yeah, for sure People out there honestly it's.
Speaker 1:it's surprising to me that, like how I've I've surprised myself with how much like dick you could put, put in, put in the butt, and how quickly you get used to the sizes. Like I look at, like the dildos that I have for my own, like but play on my own, and they just keep progressively getting larger and you just like, yeah, you can well. No, I'm used to that, I'm used to that thick eight incher. It's time to move on up.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, oh my God, ben, is there anything else that you want to share with people about the male hanger that you didn't get a chance to say, since we're coming up on an hour now?
Speaker 3:I think anything that can't be shown or answered or covered on my website. Honestly, I think we've covered it.
Speaker 2:And your male, your male hanger, your what's your website?
Speaker 3:Malehangercom, male like, and you have a YouTube channel. I do. It's male like the gender hanger, like what you hang clothes on, all one wordcom. And yes, I'm on YouTube as well and I've got my website and all the appropriate links and all that you can. There's even an introduction video about the product basic use information on my site on the main page.
Speaker 2:Fantastic. Yeah, everybody check it out. All this information will be in the show notes as well. Ben, thank you so much for chatting with us today. Thank you, you've been fucking fantastic and I appreciate your time.
Speaker 3:Totally.
Speaker 2:Thank you for having me, Of course, and until next time I'll use sexy beast. Let's all. Let's all lift 40 pounds with our tenitals.
Speaker 1:Okay, let's do that. Get right on that.
Speaker 2:Bye, all right, bye. Bye sexy babies.
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Speaker 4:I.
Speaker 5:No, why don't you, oh, why don't I?
Speaker 4:Yeah, Like you remember how you read your synopsis and you say yeah, you want me to do it like that.
Speaker 2:Yes, okay, great.
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